tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post1882586991560723235..comments2023-10-01T12:08:35.448-07:00Comments on Heart Beats: My God. Einstein's toodr.antonyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16191095888228061156noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-63063546809817231092011-02-06T21:56:14.843-08:002011-02-06T21:56:14.843-08:00Wow! That was a wonderful read...
let me also ec...Wow! That was a wonderful read... <br /><br />let me also echo the feelings of KPJ... the God I blv is the one from my own experience.. and He is in everyone of us.. if we dont see Him or feel Him, it is because of us alone. <br />And it is only because we dont see Him in others that we struggle to love those around us. <br />He is the God of all and can never belong to any religion.Happy Kittenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14406399936808407736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-84964134734620343502011-02-01T06:37:55.121-08:002011-02-01T06:37:55.121-08:00very interesting post Doc...wonderful writeup..tho...very interesting post Doc...wonderful writeup..thought provoking piece..!<br /><a href="http://tastyappetite.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Tasty appetite</a>Jayanthy Kumaranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01536467787138586347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-39148934316072309012011-02-01T05:45:09.505-08:002011-02-01T05:45:09.505-08:00Hi, Doris,
Thanks for the visit.Come as often as y...Hi, Doris,<br />Thanks for the visit.Come as often as you can!<br />@A<br />More than difficult,if you go through the comments!Yes,how can there be more?dr.antonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16191095888228061156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-77445940228842179882011-01-31T10:10:52.581-08:002011-01-31T10:10:52.581-08:00God is the god is the god. There is only one GOD -...God is the god is the god. There is only one GOD - same for everyone. That is what I believe. Difficult subject but you handled it well.Amrithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16023510703283897521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-54040596662049226782011-01-30T14:34:11.458-08:002011-01-30T14:34:11.458-08:00This is a very interesting post, given the controv...This is a very interesting post, given the controversial subject. <br /><br />DorisHold my hand: a social worker's bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283197748791227012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-10895355825361827862011-01-29T21:06:54.530-08:002011-01-29T21:06:54.530-08:00Doc,
Looks like this post of yours may end up att...Doc, <br />Looks like this post of yours may end up attracting the most comments. <br />Just to wind up my comments with this - first of all I'm not a great avid reader like you think. Yes there was a time when reading was a passionate part of living. But unfortunately the hiatus has not been got over , now for some time.<br /><br />Besides, I like to clarify and set certain matters in the correct perspective.<br />The discussion on the existence or otherwise of a power called God , or a physical for God , as noted by religious texts i s a healthy thing and not to be considered a taboo or blasphemy. Some comments have a tone of incense when the existence of God is questioned. From my side there has not been, nor from people who expressed similar views like mine, an attempt to drive down throats, our doubts of the existence of God .And why should a Theist fret, fume, and sound offended when someone questions the popular belief about the existence of God. Even if as some fear that the whole world is out to question his or her experience of God , why the feeling of hurt, of being offended? Is his /her belief, conviction and faith very fickle, fragile and imperfect to be shaky at the slightest or perceived provocation or views that are contrary? If so, which seems to be the fact, indeed is pity!!!<br />The crux of the reason for faith as it is defined conventionally, are in my opinion two. The foremost is fear- fear of life, of tomorrow, even the next moment, fear of economic downturn of personal fortunes and most of all fear of death. I would like to meet a person who can deny and prove to the contrary. And also can such persons honestly claim that he/she believes in an inclusive omnipotent force, and is not a votary of divisions based on religion and multiple Gods taking care of him , her, they and some other in a parochial manner?<br />Second , if a person has got a new lease of life , be it from the pits of life threatening ailment or incident, then there is no wonder that he or she would hold on to the faith that he/she believes has helped in the resurrection. But I suggest such people must think also from a macro level, why was this lease, this rope extended to he/her, where as the world at large is being tormented and dishevelled? The God he/she experiences can surely do wonders for many other millions of life as well. Or do such people claim and profess that they only are the chosen ones?<br />Doc, people can hold beliefs, but religion must be “as private as ones tooth brush” and not the purveyor of fanaticism, and mass hysteria that is what it is now.anilkurup59https://www.blogger.com/profile/07961961217418715354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-42370615267405208432011-01-29T21:04:11.863-08:002011-01-29T21:04:11.863-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.anilkurup59https://www.blogger.com/profile/07961961217418715354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-47738589776283007562011-01-29T15:51:29.931-08:002011-01-29T15:51:29.931-08:00@Simran
Thanks for the visit,and come often as you...@Simran<br />Thanks for the visit,and come often as you can.Happy to see that you liked the post.<br />Like KPJ mentioned,God is an experience to be felt. The trust in God,gives you the hope to live on.dr.antonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16191095888228061156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-63750171870828679742011-01-29T10:02:09.010-08:002011-01-29T10:02:09.010-08:00i loved this piece, doctor.
as far as i'm con...i loved this piece, doctor. <br />as far as i'm concerned, god is an experience. the whole world can shout me down but they cant deny this god experience one feels. how can anyone say i haven't experienced what i actually have?<br />it requires great humility to acknowledge the existence of God.kochuthresiamma p .jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01320086308375078739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-39676159421359630802011-01-29T06:14:19.710-08:002011-01-29T06:14:19.710-08:00@Anil
That is why we have less martyrs these days ...@Anil<br />That is why we have less martyrs these days !<br /><br />@Neeha<br />Yes,I have seen different kinds of statements from him at different times.It is hard to say what kind of a belief he really had.But,he believed in God.There ends our similarity.dr.antonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16191095888228061156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-16637597998767659702011-01-29T02:44:55.952-08:002011-01-29T02:44:55.952-08:00Doc, Absolutely so.
And how about this , " I&...Doc, Absolutely so.<br />And how about this , " I'm not prepared to die for my beliefs , because tomorrow I may be proved wrong"<br />( quote by Bertrand Russell)anilkurup59https://www.blogger.com/profile/07961961217418715354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-29292714464143002832011-01-29T01:35:51.093-08:002011-01-29T01:35:51.093-08:00@Sana,Petty ,Meera , Elizabeth and Rachna,
Like Ma...@Sana,Petty ,Meera , Elizabeth and Rachna,<br />Like Margaret commented,no two persons agree on matters of religion and God. I just gave my ideas.There are very strong believers,to those who believe for name sake.Even among believers,they fight to show who is right and who is wrong.<br />There is one Jesus and 1200 denominations of Christiams !<br />Do we need a better example?dr.antonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16191095888228061156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-29400834463519550692011-01-29T01:22:00.390-08:002011-01-29T01:22:00.390-08:00@Anil
If we don't think about the soul or spir...@Anil<br />If we don't think about the soul or spirit,then all living things are only of a chance occurrence,and of equal value,animals,insects and human alike.There is no meaning to human life.<br /><br />I respectfully acknowledge your views.Like in any other matter,opinions can differ.But ideas and opinions can change at any time,out of personal experiences.dr.antonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16191095888228061156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-60009156025252140062011-01-28T18:41:23.636-08:002011-01-28T18:41:23.636-08:00Rohan
Also read the comments of Anil and Balachand...Rohan<br />Also read the comments of Anil and Balachandran.They are very well read and have firm commitment to what they say.To be a good human being,one probably doesn't need to go behind a God.There are people who have proven it with their own lives.But,like there are two sides to a coin,opinions can always differ.<br />@madhu<br />It is a very difficult matter.A matter of individual choice.What happens next is the question.If you believe nothing happens,then it is simple.dr.antonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16191095888228061156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-22524550495048899292011-01-28T17:45:11.751-08:002011-01-28T17:45:11.751-08:00Doc, I guess Balan answered to a good extent for ...Doc, I guess Balan answered to a good extent for me . <br />To say that a belief and acceptance of God is the source of virtue is certainly outlandish. And to say that to claim to be an atheist is rationale is also bigotry.I , in my comment have said that I do not subscribe to any 'isms' and that has not made me a better human being or a lesser one for that matter. I'm an ordinary with the vices, hypocrisy, fallacies and may be the occasional traces of call it goodness or virtue. If that makes me akin to a beast , a dog , so be it. Are animals, canines a lesser creature than Man? If so I rather be classified with the former.anilkurup59https://www.blogger.com/profile/07961961217418715354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-46692926211000254562011-01-28T12:52:32.457-08:002011-01-28T12:52:32.457-08:00Well said. Actually I am also exploring what and w...Well said. Actually I am also exploring what and who God is. I mean, I do accept Him, the Absolute Truth but I needed to know more. I am getting there :)Madhuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09742930370657731818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-12158276851609702932011-01-28T12:17:15.751-08:002011-01-28T12:17:15.751-08:00Today morning there was a discussion in the class ...Today morning there was a discussion in the class when one sir started talking about evolution and creation.. He gave example for both the theories and asked us to think about these things and never take the word of someone just because you have to.. I think Einstein did the same and pondered about the whole matter.. In these times people should really forgo the concept of your god and my god! Its all the same and every religion basically ask to love each other!!Rohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03468620050434270232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-68285616146019376932011-01-28T10:25:34.933-08:002011-01-28T10:25:34.933-08:00"How you answer the question of God's exi..."How you answer the question of God's existence will have a profound effect on the way you live your life. It can impact your relationship with others, your commitment to integrity, your attitude toward morality, your perception of truth, and your sense of meaning in life - it can mean the difference between living a life filled with hope or one of despair."<br /><br />You are absolutely correct, doc. The way the world is, the way the majority of humans are,the way the history of mankind and life on earth has evolved is proof enough for that. <br /><br />To me, my conscience is - if you may call it so, my God. I can find answers to my questions in my conscience, whether something is right or wrong. But i have to be strong to bear that weight. All religions teach us to be strong, to find strength in ourselves. <br /><br />"Everywhere we see people in the modern world in crisis and chaos." Doc, we pass through this world in a brief span of time. Do you think similar crises and chaos hasn't happened before our times? Are people different now from that of Jesus's time? No. <br /><br />Both the God-fearing and God-less have contributed to the deterioration of life and values. <br /><br />The writer of Ecclesiastes said it right. <br /><br />Purpose? There is only one purpose,that is the biological multiplication and survival of our species. That is what all beings do, thats what we too are doing. We just add some fancy tags. Who knows what the ass thinks? Or our dogs? But do we want to know that? Hitler didn't want to know what the Jews thought. Spanish conquistadors to South America did not want to know what the natives thought. We don't want to know what the Maoist rebels think. <br /><br />Purpose! To live according to your conscience! If I can say that I never acted against my conscience, I can say my life has been worthwhile. <br /><br />All I would like to add,Doc, is never to forget the God within you, never forsake him for the external God; because that is what we have been doing all the while. Thats what all the great religions have taught us, all the philosophers have told us. <br /><br />Don't put me down as a 'Rationalist'. I am not a follower of any 'isms'. I am looking looking looking, Doc. And I see; sometimes!Balachandran Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10174364716507089780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-45599787336923683282011-01-28T07:39:42.660-08:002011-01-28T07:39:42.660-08:00A very thought provoking post, thanks.A very thought provoking post, thanks.Felicity Grace Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17852843882007267665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-72303547942488301142011-01-28T07:10:44.402-08:002011-01-28T07:10:44.402-08:00@Balan and Anil
I know for sure it is difficult to...@Balan and Anil<br />I know for sure it is difficult to argue or agree on this subject as Margaret has rightly commented.<br /><br />Those who believe in God, depend on Him and those who don't, seem to depend on themselves.<br /><br />If there is no God, then our life is not qualitatively different from that of a dog. I know that’s harsh, but it’s true. As the ancient writer of Ecclesiastes put it: “The fate of the sons of men and the fate of beasts is the same. As one dies so dies the other; indeed, they all have the same breath and there is no advantage for man over beast, for all is vanity. All go to the same place. All come from the dust and all return to the dust” (Eccles 3:19-20).<br /> <br />In this book, which reads more like a piece of modern existentialist literature than a book of the Bible, the writer shows the futility of pleasure, wealth, education, political fame, and honor in a life doomed to end in death. His verdict? “Vanity of vanities! All is vanity”. If life ends at the grave, then we have no ultimate purpose for living.<br /><br />But more than that: even if it did not end in death, without God, life would still be without purpose. For man and the universe would then be simple accidents of chance, thrust into existence for no reason. Without God, the universe is the result of a cosmic accident, a chance explosion. There is no reason for which it exists. As for man, he is a freak of nature..a blind product of matter plus time plus chance. Man is just a lump of slime that evolved into rationality. There is no more purpose in life for the human race than for a species of insect; for both are the result of the blind interaction of chance and necessity.<br /><br />Modern man is in a bad way. Everywhere we see people in the modern world in crisis and chaos. The signs of disintegration and degeneration are of course apparent for all to see.From where does this mess arise? Why are we in such dire straits? The answer is as simple as it is profound. We are in a monumental mess because we are seeking to carry a load we were never meant to carry. We are seeking to do the impossible. We are, in a word, seeking to be God. Modern man has declared there is no God. There is no centre to the universe. There is no divine glue that holds all things together. we are seeking to climb a mountain impossible to climb. In kicking God out of the universe, we are seeking to take his place. We are vainly pretending that the centre of all things is ourselves, and that we can hold all things together. We are now the source of all meaning, of all purpose, of what is true and false, right and wrong, where God once was.<br /><br />Man is more than just a slab of meat. He is also a spiritual creature with spiritual needs. When we deny this aspect of human reality, we end up with alienation, despair, and frustration. <br /><br />For atheism receives its true, full meaning from the reality it rejects ... God. It represents a choice the creature makes of himself and his universe in preference to his Creator. For every temptation to deny God has as the necessary correlative of the denial the affirmation of the creature over God”.<br /><br />Dear Anil and Balan,<br />I was not at all trying to argue it out.People have different view points,and I fully realize we could live as good men,even if do not believe in God. Great men like Sartre and Russel have showed us that. They lived,what seems to be immensely full and productive lives.But isn't it also true the values they had kept were inadvertently influenced by the environment they lived in?<br /><br />According to Zacharias( Can man live without God, Ravi Zacharias: Thomas Nelson ) how you answer the question of God's existence will have a profound effect on the way you live your life. It can impact your relationship with others, your commitment to integrity, your attitude toward morality, your perception of truth, and your sense of meaning in life - it can mean the difference between living a life filled with hope or one of despair.dr.antonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16191095888228061156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-77411109612118104792011-01-28T06:33:26.818-08:002011-01-28T06:33:26.818-08:00@Harman
All said and done,the values we keep have ...@Harman<br />All said and done,the values we keep have got in to us from generations of faith in religion and its principles.Can you imagine a world without law and order?.Has anyone thought where all this law and order evolved from?<br />@Hepziba<br />I know that.The beginning is to accept God.The rest is all easy.I picked on Einstein,to show that intelligence or science is not against religion and faith.<br />@Margaret<br />That is for real.When you reach the end of the road,where will you turn to?<br />Imagine a situation without laws and moral values!dr.antonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16191095888228061156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-45149524397573235812011-01-28T04:28:40.034-08:002011-01-28T04:28:40.034-08:00And after reading this, i'm forced to come bac...And after reading this, i'm forced to come back again for more :)so ve started following you.<br />Take Care.<br /><br />Bye, <br />SimranThe Classic Honeymoonershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17065270444541819900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-17945760404506614532011-01-28T03:09:06.789-08:002011-01-28T03:09:06.789-08:00Hi. Just finished reading this write-up...astonish...Hi. Just finished reading this write-up...astonishing..i mean the way you explained God and religion is fabulous. I always ponder over one thing that is there a single person out there who thinks like me when He is in the picture? I use the word Leaves where you've used hair..."If a hair cannot fall without His knowledge, is there a point in asking Him, when we ourselves fall totally?" <br />Amazing post. I read my thoughts clearly inscribed in this superb post. <br />Thanx for sharing!The Classic Honeymoonershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17065270444541819900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-28727784481423275152011-01-28T03:06:22.730-08:002011-01-28T03:06:22.730-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.The Classic Honeymoonershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17065270444541819900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1069457624670089531.post-71057849167275427802011-01-28T03:03:14.402-08:002011-01-28T03:03:14.402-08:00Well written post :)Well written post :)A New Beginninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07292758705734074064noreply@blogger.com